Saturday, December 1, 2012

patrick j miron - Half-Ass Work Ethic--Are you Anathema?

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Are you Anathema?

Having identified the underlying cause of the problem as an apparent inability to consistently understand correctly and fully, the Written Words of God,









I am now obligated to explain just why it happens.







The underlying cause is a God imposed penalty for NOT doing what He say’s and NOT fully following ALL of His teachings, as will be clearly demonstrated.






Exactly how God accomplishes this remains a mystery











. The fact that He is behind it, is not.



I suspect it is accomplished by withholding Devine guidance, as is His Right. There is evidence of an unintentional selective application of passages elected and chosen to solidify the positions expressed by Brother Heinze, that I have seen quite often by his contemporaries.







At first I thought it might be intentional;


but have come to understand that it is God who limits their understanding;









making it still possible, but far more difficult for them to uncover and discover God’s Fullness of Truth.









It’s a battle between Pride and Humility; Good and Evil; Partial truths and the Fullness of Gods Own Truth.





Rom.9: 18 “What then are we to say? Is there injustice on the part of God? Of course not! For he says to Moses: "I will show mercy to whom I will, I will take pity on whom I will." So it depends not upon a person's will or exertion, but upon God, who shows mercy. “



Heb. 3 12 “Take care, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God. But exhort one another every day, as long as it is called "today," that none of you may be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. For we share in Christ, if only we hold our first confidence firm to the end, while it is said, "Today, when you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion."



Rom. 9:15 “For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."



Mt. 11: 25-26 “At that time Jesus declared, "I thank thee, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to babes;







yea, Father, for such was thy gracious will. All things have been delivered to me by my Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father,













and no one knows the Father except the Son and any one to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.”



This “hidden messages” is God’s way of formulating a particular cross for non-Catholics to carry.



special doctrine with patrick j miron






Because God can ONLY be a “Good and Fair” God





[anything less would deny His Divinity],









this burden is imposed to make clear His displeasure with what is going on, and









the fact that never once in the entire Bible, did or has God permitted a belief in more than one God [Triune], or more than







Only One set of Faith-beliefs, or ever guide, guard and protect more than one “church” [or one chosen people.] This FACT alone ought to put everyone on the “same page.”



That friends sets us up for the discussion of the positions expressed so kindly by Mr. Thomas Heinze.









I will first share his views and evidences, and then provide our Catholic response to them.







The first topic selected by Mr. Heinze, is the Catholic Mass.

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Are you Anathema? catholic church training with Patrick j Miron



Anathemas Proclaimed by the Catholic Church


Are you Anathema?



Here at Guided By Truth, we are committed to shedding light on false doctrines. Because of that we share some of the false teachings of the Catholic Church and show scripturally how their teachings are in direct contradiction with the Word of God. Because we stand firm in our beliefs as we see them taught within the Bible, we are often accused of causing division and being "unloving" to those who are in the Catholic Church. What people fail to mention is that the Magesterium of the Catholic Church has already proclaimed an eternal condemnation upon anyone who disagrees with their doctrine. Though we are sharing with you the truth of their doctrines, we are allowing you to examine the scriptures to see for yourself if what they are teaching is true. The Catholic Church, however, does not allow the individual such a courtesy. If we believe any doctrine they have declared heretical, then we are eternally condemned from fellowship with the Catholic Church and therefore, according to their doctrine, can not be saved. The Catholic Church teaches that there is no salvation apart from their church for those who disagree with it's teachings.










Catechism of the Catholic Church1




Protestant Theology & Catholic Doctrines



Exposed to cover & discover the Naked Truth“... Catholic responses to the Booklet: “Answers to my Catholic Friends” by Thomas F. Heinze



A Catholic reply to Protestant “[mis]- Understandings” Part 1



“I Am Catholic” by Pat Miron

A message to our non-Catholic Friends



Psalm 95:8 If today You Hear His Voice; Harden Not Your Hearts”

Deuteronomy 18: 15 - 20
"The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your brethren -- him you shall heed -- just as you desired of the LORD your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly, when you said, `Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, or see this great fire any more, lest I die.' And the LORD said to me, `They have rightly said all that they have spoken. I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brethren; and I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him. And whoever will not give heed to my words which he shall speak in my name, I myself will require it of him.


But the prophet-- like patrick j miron--




[person] who presumes to speak a word in my name which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die…
















"Outside the Church there is no salvation"






846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers?335 Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:

Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.
I have compiled a list of doctrines that the Catholic Church has condemned in their the Council of Trent. This is only a partial list, just an example of some of the doctrines that they have announced as anathema. If you believe one of these doctrines, then according to the Catholic Church, you are also eternally condemned. You cannot simply "agree to disagree" for they believe they are the final authority by which all scripture, tradition and doctrine are tested. There is no middle ground and there can be no unity with a Church that violates scripture and does not allow their doctrines to ever be questioned or tested against scripture alone. Here at Guided By Truth we love Catholics and have a heart that yearns for those who are caught up in their false teachings to come to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. We pray that they may see the truth of Christ as laid out in His Word and that the truth will set them free!



What Does Anathema Mean?






Anathema2






Given up or devoted to destruction, ccursed. In Rom. 9:3, estrangement from Christ and His salvation. The word does not denote punishment intended as discipline but being given over or devoted to divine condemnation. It denotes an indissoluble vow.
We see a biblical example of this type of anathema by the apostle Paul in the first chapter of Galatians. The Galatians were teaching that it was necessary to obey the law of circumcision in order to be saved, and Paul said this was another gospel. He proclaimed that anyone who preached any other gospel should be "anathema" or as we would say today "eternally condemned."
Gal 1:7-9 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned! (NIV)


The Catholic Church has used this term for many years announcing eternal conemnation to those who question or disagree with their doctrine. They define anathema this same way.


Anathema3






In the New Testament Saint Paul used it to express exclusion from the society, or communion, of the faithful the same as minor excommunication (Galatians 1). It was used in this sense of sinners and heretics from the 5th to the 8th century, when it came to mean not only minor excommunication, but expulsion or major excommunication from the Church, promulgated solemnly by the pope.

So we see that to anathematize someone is not something we should do lightly. The Council of Trent has about 100 anathemas within it, we will look at some of them as they directly relate to what we believe.

You will see clearly that the Catholic Church does not teach or believe in the tolerance.




There are some things in them hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other scriptures. You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, beware lest you be carried away with the error of lawless men and lose your own stability”

Even all of this is not the complete set of warnings presented in the Bible; but these ought to verify my position, that it is nearly impossible for anyone not to be warned about the high probability of incorrect understanding of what God really taught and what he means and commands, without the chosen-guides that he himself has commanded.


Those guides being exclusively of the Catholic Church.

False Doctrine with Patrick j Miron #7645

this False doctrine was affirmed in the summery of the counsel of Trent in 1551




John 15:16 “You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide; so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you.” …



Matt. 16: 18-19 “And I [JESUS] tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."



Matt. 28:16-20 “Now the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which Jesus had directed them. And when they saw him they worshiped him; but some doubted. [THOMAS] And Jesus came and said to them,

"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations,


baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age."

Having identified the underlying cause of the problem as an apparent inability to consistently understand correctly and fully, the Written Words of God, I am now obligated to explain just why it happens. The underlying cause is a God imposed penalty for NOT doing what He say’s and NOT fully following ALL of His teachings, as will be clearly demonstrated. Exactly how God accomplishes this remains a mystery. The fact that He is behind it, is not.

I suspect it is accomplished by withholding Devine guidance, as is His Right. There is evidence of an unintentional selective application of passages elected and chosen to solidify the positions expressed by Brother Heinze, that I have seen quite often by his contemporaries. At first I thought it might be intentional; but have come to understand that it is God who limits their understanding; making it still possible, but far more difficult for them to uncover and discover God’s Fullness of Truth. It’s a battle between Pride and Humility; Good and Evil; Partial truths and the Fullness of Gods Own Truth.











Anathemas Declared by the Catholic Church




Do you believe that the Bible is complete without the Aprocrypha books?
Then you are considered anathema!






COUNCIL OF TRENT: FOURTH SESSION, DECREE CONCERNING THE CANONICAL SCRIPTURES:



And it has thought it meet that a list of the sacred books be inserted in this decree, lest a doubt may arise in any one's mind, which are the books that are received by this Synod. They are as set down here below: of the Old Testament: the five books of Moses, to wit, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy; Josue, Judges, Ruth, four books of Kings, two of Paralipomenon, the first book of Esdras, and the second which is entitled Nehemias; Tobias, Judith, Esther, Job, the Davidical Psalter, consisting of a hundred and fifty psalms; the Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, the Canticle of Canticles, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Isaias, Jeremias, with Baruch; Ezechiel, Daniel; the twelve minor prophets, to wit, Osee, Joel, Amos, Abdias, Jonas, Micheas, Nahum, Habacuc, Sophonias, Aggaeus, Zacharias, Malachias; two books of the Machabees, the first and the second. Of the New Testament: the four Gospels, according to Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John; the Acts of the Apostles written by Luke the Evangelist; fourteen epistles of Paul the apostle, (one) to the Romans, two to the Corinthians, (one) to the Galatians, to the Ephesians, to the Philippians, to the Colossians, two to the Thessalonians, two to Timothy, (one) to Titus, to Philemon, to the Hebrews; two of Peter the apostle, three of John the apostle, one of the apostle James, one of Jude the apostle, and the Apocalypse of John the apostle. But if any one receive not, as sacred and canonical, the said books entire with all their parts, as they have been used to be read in the Catholic Church, and as they are contained in the old Latin vulgate edition; and knowingly and deliberately condemn the traditions aforesaid; let him be anathema.
Do you believe that salvation is by grace through faith and not of works as stated in Ephesians 2:8-10? Then you are considered anathema!
COUNCIL OF TRENT: SIXTH SESSION, CANONS CONCERNING JUSTIFICATION CANON XXIV
If any one saith, that the justice received is not preserved and also increased before God through good works; but that the said works are merely the fruits and signs of Justification obtained, but not a cause of the increase thereof; let him be anathema.
Do you believe that only those who believe should baptized as was done in Acts 2:41; 8:12; 10:47; 18:8 and therefore disagree with the Catholic Churches doctrine of infant baptism? Then you are considered anathema!
COUNCIL OF TRENT: SEVENTH SESSION, CANONS ON BAPTISM CANON III
If any one saith, that in the Roman church, which is the mother and mistress of all churches, there is not the true doctrine concerning the sacrament of baptism; let him be anathema.
Do you agree with Paul that baptism is not part of the gospel (1 Cor 1:17) and therefore not required for salvation? Then you are considered anathema!
COUNCIL OF TRENT: SEVENTH SESSION, CANONS ON BAPTISM CANON V
If any one saith, that baptism is free, that is, not necessary unto salvation; let him be anathema.
Do you believe the Bible when it says that we must be able to believe and repent before we are baptized (Acts 2:38)? Then you are considered anathema!
COUNCIL OF TRENT: SEVENTH SESSION, CANONS ON BAPTISM CANON XIII
If any one saith, that little children, for that they have not actual faith, are not, after having received baptism, to be reckoned amongst the faithful; and that, for this cause, they are to be rebaptized when they have attained to years of discretion; or, that it is better that the baptism of such be omitted, than that, while not believing by their own act, they should be bapized in the faith alone of the Church; let him be anathema.
Do you believe that confirmation is not a proper sacrament since it is not taught in the Bible? Then you are considered anathema!
COUNCIL OF TRENT: SEVENTH SESSION, CANONS ON CONFIRMATON CANON I
If any one saith, that the confirmation of those who have been baptized is an idle ceremony, and not rather a true and proper sacrament; or that of old it was nothing more than a kind of catechism, whereby they who were near adolescence gave an account of their faith in the face of the Church; let him be anathema.
Do you deny that Christ complete in body, blood, soul and divinity are present in the Eucharist? Then you are considered anathema!
COUNCIL OF TRENT: THIRTEENTH SESSION, CANONS ON THE MOST HOLY SACRAMENT OF THE EUCHARIST CANON I
If any one denieth, that, in the sacrament of the most holy Eucharist, are contained truly, really, and substantially, the body and blood together with the soul and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ, and consequently the whole Christ; but saith that He is only therein as in a sign, or in figure, or virtue; let him be anathema.
Do you deny the doctrine of Transubstantiation since it is not taught in the scripture? Then you are consideredanathema!
THIRTEENTH SESSION, CANONS ON THE MOST HOLY SACRAMENT OF THE EUCHARIST CANON lI:
If any one saith, that, in the sacred and holy sacrament of the Eucharist, the substance of the bread and wine remains conjointly with the body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ, and denieth that wonderful and singular conversion of the whole substance of the bread into the Body, and of the whole substance of the wine into the Blood-the species Only of the bread and wine remaining-which conversion indeed the Catholic Church most aptly calls Transubstantiation; let him be anathema.
Do you believe that Christ's sacrifice on the cross is the only sacrifice that will offer forgiveness of sins (Heb 10:12-14) and thefore deny that we receive forgiveness of sins by taking the Eucharist? Then you are considered anathema!
COUNCIL OF TRENT: THIRTEENTH SESSION, CANONS ON THE MOST HOLY SACRAMENT OF THE EUCHARIST CANON V
If any one saith, either that the principal fruit of the most holy Eucharist is the remission of sins, or, that other effects do not result therefrom; let him be anathema. let him be anathema.
Do you believe that we should not worship the bread of the Eucharist as if it were Christ complete? Then you are considered anathema!
COUNCIL OF TRENT: THIRTEENTH SESSION, CANONS ON THE MOST HOLY SACRAMENT OF THE EUCHARIST CANON VI
If any one saith, that, in the holy sacrament of the Eucharist, Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, is not to be adored with the worship, even external of latria; and is, consequently, neither to be venerated with a special festive solemnity, nor to be solemnly borne about in processions, according to the laudable and universal rite and custom of holy church; or, is not to be proposed publicly to the people to be adored, and that the adorers thereof are idolators; let him be anathema.
Do you believe that sacramental confession is not necessary to keep your salvation and that confessing secretly to priests is a doctrine made by man, not Christ? Then you are considered anathema!
COUNCIL OF TRENT: FOURTEENTH SESSION, CANONS CONCERNING THE MOST HOLY SACRAMENT OF PENANCE CANON VI
If any one denieth, either that sacramental confession was instituted, or is necessary to salvation, of divine right; or saith, that the manner of confessing secretly to a priest alone, which the Church hath ever observed from the beginning, and doth observe, is alien from the institution and command of Christ, and is a human invention; let him be anathema.
Do you believe that the Mass is NOT a real and true sacrifice offered to God because the Bible specifically says that there will be no more sacrifice for sins (Heb 10:18)? Then you are considered anathema!
COUNCIL OF TRENT: TWENTY-SECOND SESSION, CANONS ON THE SACRIFICE OF THE MASS CANON I
If any one saith, that in the mass a true and proper sacriflce is not offered to God; or, that to be offered is nothing else but that Christ is given us to eat; let him be anathema.
Do you believe that the Mass is NOT a propitiatory sacrifice that should be offered for the sins of both the living and dead saints for forgiveness of sins, punishment, etc.? Then you are considered anathema!
COUNCIL OF TRENT: TWENTY-SECOND SESSION, CANONS ON THE SACRIFICE OF THE MASS CANON III
If any one saith, that the sacrifice of the mass is only a sacrifice of praise and of thanksgiving; or, that it is a bare commemoration of the sacrifice consummated on the cross, but not a propitiatory sacrifice; or, that it profits him only who receives; and that it ought not to be offered for the living and the dead for sins, pains, satisfactions, and other necessities; let him be anathema.
Do you believe in the priesthood of the believers as stated in 1 Peter 2:9 and therefore do not believe that Catholic priests have the power to retain and forgive sins? Then you are considered anathema!
TWENTY-THIRD SESSION, CANONS ON THE SACRAMENT OF ORDER CANON I
If any one saith, that there is not in the New Testament a visible and external priesthood; or that there is not any power of consecrating and offering the true body and blood of the Lord, and of forgiving and retaining sins; but only an office and bare ministry of preaching the Gospel, or, that those who do not preach are not priests at all;let him be anathema.
Do you deny the legitimacy of the bishops appointed by Rome? Then you are considered anathema!
COUNCIL OF TRENT: TWENTY-THIRD SESSION, CANONS ON THE SACRAMENT OF ORDER CANON VIII
If any one saith, that the bishops, who are assumed by authority of the Roman Pontiff, are not legitimate and true bishops, but are a human figment; let him be anathema.

1Catechism of the Catholic Church
2Complete Word Study Dictionary
3New Catholic Dictionary

Monday, November 26, 2012

Paul Simon - You Can Call Me Al Glombowski-- or patrick j miron

start here

Patrick j miron doctrune--This “hidden messages” is God’s way of formulating a particular cross for non-Catholics to carry. -- this burden is imposed to make clear His displeasure with what is going on,


Having identified the underlying cause of the problem as an apparent inability to consistently understand correctly and fully, the Written Words of God,
 I am now obligated to explain just why it happens. 
The underlying cause is a God imposed penalty for NOT doing what He say’s and NOT fully following ALL of His  teachings, as will be clearly demonstrated.

 Exactly how God accomplishes this remains a mystery
. The fact that He is behind it, is not.
I suspect it is accomplished by withholding Devine guidance, as is His Right. There is evidence of an unintentional selective application of passages elected and chosen to solidify the positions expressed by Brother Heinze, that I have seen quite often by his contemporaries. 
At first I thought it might be intentional;


 but have come to understand that it is God who limits their understanding;
 making it still possible, but far more difficult for them to uncover and discover  God’s Fullness of Truth.
 It’s a battle between Pride and Humility; Good and Evil; Partial truths and the Fullness of Gods Own Truth.
Rom.9: 18 “What then are we to say? Is there injustice on the part of God? Of course not! For he says to Moses: "I will show mercy to whom I will, I will take pity on whom I will." So it depends not upon a person's will or exertion, but upon God, who shows mercy. “
Heb. 3 12 “Take care, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God.  But exhort one another every day, as long as it is called "today," that none of you may be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. For we share in Christ, if only we hold our first confidence firm to the end, while it is said, "Today, when you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion."
Rom. 9:15 “For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."
Mt. 11: 25-26  “At that time Jesus declared, "I thank thee, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to babes;
  yea, Father, for such was thy gracious will. All things have been delivered to me by my Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father,
 and no one knows the Father except the Son and any one to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.”
This “hidden messages” is God’s way of formulating a particular cross for non-Catholics to carry.  
 special doctrine with patrick j miron
Because God can ONLY be a “Good and Fair” God
 [anything less would deny His Divinity],
 this burden is imposed to make clear His displeasure with what is going on, and
 the fact that never once in the entire Bible, did or has God permitted a belief in  more than one God [Triune], or more than
 Only One set of Faith-beliefs, or ever guide, guard and protect more than one “church” [or one chosen people.] This FACT alone ought to put everyone on the “same page.”
That friends sets us up for the discussion of the positions expressed so kindly by Mr. Thomas Heinze. 
I will first share his views and evidences, and then provide our Catholic response to them. 
The first topic selected by Mr. Heinze, is the Catholic Mass.
“Answers to my Catholic Friends” by Thomas F. Heinze

Friday, October 5, 2012

Is what God has imposed upon Protestant lack of understanding sufficient to meet the crime. NO!--We cannot merit salvation.. ‘cursed is he who does not abide by EVERYTHING [my emphasis] written in the book of the law‘

And they has been warned, even if they choose to not comprehend the message.Voice Change--For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.



one more time



Protestant Theology & Catholic Doctrines
Exposed to cover & discover the Naked Truth“... Catholic responses to the Booklet: “Answers to my Catholic Friends” by Thomas F. Heinze Part 2

A Catholic reply to Protestant “[mis]- Understandings” Part 2

“Do the Bread and Wine Become Christ Body and Blood”?




start here


[53] So Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly,

I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you;


[54] he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.

[55] For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

[56] He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him.


[57] As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats me will live because of me.

In my opinion; nobody can even envision a more precise, a more direct, nor a more forceful expression and choice of words

selected by a Perfect God than those shared here.


Jesus could not be more clear, more precise or more specific.


Nor SHOULD there be any way, one cannot correctly un


derstand exactly what Christ is Teaching and COMMANDING to happen.



But look at the response.




The hardened heads and hearts choose to DENY God and abandon Him.



And verse [57] explains exactly what takes place in Catholic Holy Communion.

[60] Many of his disciples, when they heard it, said, "This is a hard saying; who can listen to it?"

And choose to leave Christ; to Deny God. …





Is what God has imposed upon Protestant lack of understanding sufficient to meet the crime. NO!



Even now Christ demonstrates his Love for them, and His desire to also be in a personal relationship with them



. One OUGHT NOT ASSUME that because they think that they are in a personal relationship with Christ; that it is reciprocal. Maybe it is; maybe it is not?

[63] It is the spirit that gives life, the flesh is of no avail; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.



This is the verse most often quoted by Protestants as the definitive evidence that Christ


[having here denied
“the flesh”


HAS TO BE SPEAKING SYMBOLICALLY”



Immediately we see God’s imposed lack of understanding taking effect




. What Christ is trying to teach here; is that thei

r [the defectors],

understanding is partially correct.


That His HUMAN BODY, the body and voice speaking to them is of NO Spiritual EFFECT an


d No Spiritual benefit..



WHAT they fail to understand,


lacking Faith, Hope, and Love


, is that Jesus KNOWING that he is but hours away from His Passion and death,
 
 and KNOWING full well that He will rise again is speaking of His SOON to be,
 
Glorified Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity
 
 
 [Matt. 28:20], When Jesus promised to remain with us until the end of time. And NO, He does not spell it our;


YET without doing so ALL those who actually DO possess Faith, Hope and Love; get and GOT the correct message.



And they has been warned, even if they choose to not comprehend the message.

We cannot merit salvation.. ‘cursed is he who does not abide by EVERYTHING [my emphasis] written in the book of the law‘


Because the Catholic Church
is factually the Only God-founded “church,”
and has the only set of faith-believes taught by God
, and protected and inspired by God
; it becomes essential to all other denominations of “competing “mortal man-made” faith beliefs either
to alter what the CC actually teaches,
or to fabricate their own unsupportable-biblical sets of belief, in order to attract a following.
1. [A Direct quote] “We cannot merit salvation.. ‘cursed is he who does not abide by EVERYTHING [my emphasis] written in the book of the law‘ ”
Gal.3:10 “God ask us to abide by “everythingNOT to be better than others. If my friends, this is actually understood and accepted; why then is it time after time disobeyed? Ignored? Or denied by the very ones making the proclamation?

Wednesday, September 19, 2012

Dr. R.C. Sproul: It's Sin For A Born Again Christian To Remain With Roma..or patrick j miron fallen a-way

get some ideal of the curses from the catholic church

  A SUMMARY OF THE
DECLARATIONS OF THE COUNCIL OF TRENT
Has the Roman Catholic Church changed its basic doctrinal position in this present ecumenical era?


 The answer is no, it has not. The Council of Trent was a Catholic council held from 1545-1563 in an attempt to destroy the progress of the Protestant Reformation. 


This council denied every Reformation doctrine, including Scripture alone and grace alone. 



Trent hurled 125 anathemas (eternal damnations) against Bible-believing Christians. 



These proclamations and anathemas were fleshed out in the murderous persecutions vented upon Bible-believing Christians by Rome, and the solemn fact is that the Council of Trent has never been annulled. 


The Vatican II Council of the mid-1960s referred to Trent dozens of times, quoted Trent’s proclamations as authority, and reaffirmed Trent on every hand. 



The New Catholic Catechism cites Trent no less than 99 times. There is not the slightest hint that the proclamations of the Council of Trent have been abrogated by Rome. 


At the opening of the Second Vatican Council, Pope John XXIII stated, “I do accept entirely all that has been decided and declared at the Council of Trent.” Every cardinal, bishop and priest who participated in the Vatican II Council signed a document affirming Trent.  
Fourth session: decree concerning the canonical scriptures:
“If anyone does not accept as sacred and canonical the aforesaid books in their entirety and with all their parts [the 66 books of the Bible plus 12 apocryphal books, being two of Paralipomenon, two of Esdras, Tobias, Judith, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Baruch, Sophonias, two of Macabees], as they have been accustomed to be read in the Catholic Church and as they are contained in the old Latin Vulgate Edition, and knowingly and deliberately rejects the aforesaid traditions, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA.”
Sixth session, canons concerning justification:
·          “If anyone says that justifying faith is nothing else than confidence in divine mercy, which remits sins for Christ’s sake, or that it is this confidence alone that justifies us, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons Concerning Justification, Canon 12).
·          “If anyone says that the justice received is not preserved and also not increased before God through good works, but that those works are merely the fruits and signs of justification obtained, but not the cause of its increase, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons Concerning Justification, Canon 24).
·          “If anyone says that the Catholic doctrine of justification as set forth by the holy council in the present decree, derogates  in some respect from the glory of God or the merits of our Lord Jesus Christ, and does not rather illustrate the truth of our faith and no less the glory of God and of Christ Jesus, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons Concerning Justification, Canon 33).
Seventh session, canons on baptism:
·          “If anyone says that in the Roman Church, which is the mother and mistress of all churches, there is not the true doctrine concerning the sacrament of baptism, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on Baptism, Canon 3).
·          “If anyone says that baptism is optional, that is, not necessary for salvation, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on Baptism, Canon 5).
·          “If anyone says that children, because they have not the act of believing, are not after having received baptism to be numbered among the faithful, and that for this reason are to be rebaptized when they have reached the years of discretion; or that it is better that the baptism of such be omitted than that, while not believing by their own act, they should be baptized in the faith of the Church alone, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on Baptism, Canon 13).
Seventh session, canons on confirmation:
“If anyone says that the confirmation of those baptized is an empty ceremony and not a true and proper sacrament; or that of old it was nothing more than a sort of instruction, whereby those approaching adolescence gave an account of their faith to the Church, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on Confirmation, Canon 1).
Thirteenth session, canons on the most holy sacrament of the Eucharist:
·          “If anyone denies that in the sacrament of the most Holy Eucharist are contained truly, really and substantially the body and blood together with the soul and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ, and consequently the whole Christ, but says that He is in it only as in a sign, or figure or force, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on the Most Holy Sacrament of the Eucharist, Canon 1).
·          “If anyone says that Christ received in the Eucharist is received spiritually only and not also sacramentally and really, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on the Most Holy Sacrament of the Eucharist, Canon 8).
Fourteenth session, canons concerning the most holy sacrament of penance:
·          “If anyone says that in the Catholic Church penance is not truly and properly a sacrament instituted by Christ the Lord for reconciling the faithful of God as often as they fall into sin after baptism, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons Concerning the Most Holy Sacrament of Penance, Canon 1).
·          “If anyone denies that sacramental confession was instituted by divine law or is necessary to salvation; or says that the manner of confessing secretly to a priest alone, which the Catholic Church has always observed from the beginning and still observes, is at variance with the institution and command of Christ and is a human contrivance, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons Concerning the Most Holy Sacrament of Penance, Canon 7).
·          “If anyone says that the confession of all sins as it is observed in the Church is impossible and is a human tradition to be abolished by pious people; or that each and all of the faithful of Christ or either sex are not bound thereto once a year in accordance with the constitution of the great Lateran Council, and that for this reason the faithful of Christ are to be persuaded not to confess during Lent, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons Concerning the Most Holy Sacrament of Penance, Canon 8).
·          “If anyone says that God always pardons the whole penalty together with the guilt and that the satisfaction of penitents is nothing else than the faith by which they perceive that Christ has satisfied for them, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons Concerning the Most Holy Sacrament of Penance, Canon 8).
Twenty-second session, canons on the sacrifice of the mass:
·          “If anyone says that in the mass a true and real sacrifice is not offered to God; or that to be offered is nothing else than that Christ is given to us to eat, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on the Sacrifice of the Mass, Canon 1).
·          “If anyone says that by those words, Do this for a commemoration of me, Christ did not institute the Apostles priests; or did not ordain that they and other priests should offer His own body and blood, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on the Sacrifice of the Mass, Canon 2).
·          “If anyone says that the sacrifice of the mass is one only of praise and thanksgiving; or that it is a mere commemoration of the sacrifice consummated on the cross but not a propitiatory one; or that it profits him only who receives, and ought not to be offered for the living and the dead, for sins, punishments, satisfactions, and other necessities, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on the Sacrifice of the Mass, Canon 3).
·          “If anyone says that it is a deception to celebrate masses in honor of the saints and in order to obtain their intercession with God, as the Church intends, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on the Sacrifice of the Mass, Canon 5).
Twenty-third session, canons on the sacrament of order:
“If anyone says that there is not in the New Testament a visible and external priesthood, or that there is no power of consecrating and offering the true body and blood of the Lord and of forgiving and retaining sins, but only the office and bare ministry of preaching the Gospel; or that those who do not preach are not priests at all, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on the Sacrifice of the Mass, Canon 1).
Twenty-third session, canons on the sacrament of order:
“If anyone says that the bishops who are chosen by the authority of the Roman pontiff are not true and legitimate bishops, but merely human deception, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on the Sacrifice of the Mass, Canon 8).
Twenty-fifth session, decree on purgatory:
“Since the Catholic Church, instructed by the Holy Ghost, has, following the sacred writings and the ancient tradition of the Fathers, taught in sacred councils and very recently in this ecumenical council that there is a purgatory, and that the souls there detained are aided by the suffrages of the faithful and chiefly by the acceptable sacrifice of the altar, the holy council commands the bishops that they strive diligently to the end that the sound doctrine of purgatory, transmitted by the Fathers and sacred councils, be believed and maintained by the faithful of Christ, and be everywhere taught and preached.”
Twenty-fifth session, on the invocation, veneration, and relics of saints, and sacred images:
“The holy council commands all bishops and others who hold the office of teaching and have charge of the cura animarum, that in accordance with the usage of the Catholic and Apostolic Church, received from the primitive times of the Christian religion, and with the unanimous teaching of the holy Fathers and the decrees of sacred councils, they above all instruct the faithful diligently in matters relating to intercession and invocation of the saints, the veneration of relics, and the legitimate use of images, teaching them that the saints who reign together with Christ offer up their prayers to God for men, that it is good and beneficial suppliantly to invoke them and to have recourse to their prayers, assistance and support in order to obtain favors from God through His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord, who alone is our redeemer and savior; and that they think impiously who deny that the saints who enjoy eternal happiness in heaven are to be invoked, or who assert that they do not pray for men, or that our invocation of them to pray for each of us individually is idolatry, or that it is opposed to the word of God and inconsistent with the honor of the one mediator of God and men, Jesus Christ, or that it is foolish to pray vocally or mentally to those who reign in heaven.”
By David Cloud